Kukulo napsal:
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Poznamka: origo HSFX nezobrazuje pri stlaceni klavesy "S" co za stroje maju ostatni hraci. To nie je bug, to je naschval

EDIT: "Zralok" bol rychlejsi, ale to hadam neva.

Vztah HSFX a UP je podla UP readme takyto: "UP 1.8 is based on Chaps SFS archives that are made for HSFX History Mod. "

It is (and has been...) a confusing situation for some time.

I think you have to agnowledge that there is actually NOBODY in a position to tell anybody what they should do, there hasn't been since mod options arrived... or is likely to be ...that approach did not work...

However the last few months have moved everybody further towards a CONSENSUS than the past year and a half:-

Its not that fundamentaly complicated though I don't think:-

The SFS archives were made for HSFX by us...they underpin HSFX and UP..without HSFX there would be no UP in its current form.
All future SFS archives are likely to continue to be produced by us....so the HSFX core is going to be quite 'universal' whichever version you choose.

We chose to ask UP to do the netcode, that is what HSFX 4.1 contains (yes netcode by Zuti and Panos of UP...) . There is genuine co-operatin between the two .

Much of th content this time around for 4.1 came directly from AAA (with direct work with the authors) and a large part of the playtesting , feedback and 'environment' is as a result of C6 !

HSFX is always going to be 'smaller' and fully encrypted in SFS. We asked Panos if he can add a switcher option in UP for the future so that you can switch that back to HSFX compatability. It has to be this way around, as UP is derivative and is always going to be released later as its based upon the same archives.

Also a server version that allows you to choose either option.

Panos agrees fully that this is the way to go !

So in future you have choice...you have similar netcode and you also have a 'common' denominator.

Peopel can decide after that, its much of a muchness to me so long as I can occasionally fly online (outside of a SEOW context) without more than one install (which I do about once in a blue moon !)

The major differances at a practical level are probably in the FM's...

Olegs player FM's are sacred in both cases. Weapons in both are identical.
We did almost all of the AI made flyable FM 'tweaks' for both.
The differances are in the new aircraft that are fighter types.

We do not consider ourselves experts in any way, but we are fortunate now to have the opinions of many knowledgable people and a pretty developed toolset, the defining feature of our FM's has been 'consistency with Oleg' and correction as a result of the feedback of the large and extremely mature SEOW community.
(eg unless a new aircraft feels and flies in a similar way to others of its class and in similar relation to Olegs other existing flyable aircraft, its effectively useless to us in our SEOW wars...)

Up FM's tend to take a slightly different direction, there is more deliberate effort to create new Axis aircraft of similar type to Olegs Axis fighters to correct perceived mistakes based on direct graphing.


It comes down to choice really, its all good

Tajpan napsal:
dobrý návrh, ale nemôžem to akceptovať.
dôvod: popis serverov na X-fire je nedostatočný.
v HL server:
CRO_DOGYARD: 4.09, Mods ON, UP1.8
v X-FIRE server
CRO_DOGYARD : bez udania verzie, modov atd (len sa dá zistiť , že ide aktuálne mapa kuban)

Tajpan napsal:
súhlasím, ale v HL je to viac prehladnejšie a podrobnejšie.

History sme testovali vo velkom, a bol to velmi dobrý mod, ale až do jedného testu.
Uvidim či sa to podarí opraviť v dalšom patchi.

311_Tank napsal:
Zase bych tu nevyhlasoval krizovou vypravu proti UP. UP 1.8 je defakto rozvrtanej HSFX 4.0 (samotna HSFX 4.0 je debugovana velmi solidne) plus par "novejch" letadel pochybnym FM navrch.